Thornhill Woods · 学校驱动的中高端家庭自住区Thornhill Woods · Vaughan’s School-Driven Family Core
Bathurst、Dufferin、Rutherford 与 Highway 7 围合的成熟 freehold 社区,学校口碑、社区中心和 407 / Highway 7 交通走廊三样都在手上,自住家庭比例高、街区维护普遍不错。代价是房价门槛明显高于 Vaughan 入门社区,学区按街道分裂、高峰期 Bathurst / Rutherford 拥堵,2000 年代那批房子已进入屋顶、窗户、HVAC 的维护周期。A mature freehold pocket framed by Bathurst, Dufferin, Rutherford and Highway 7, where school reputation, real community infrastructure and the 407 / Highway 7 corridor all land in the same postal code. Owner-occupiers dominate and the streets show it. The trade-offs are a price floor well above entry-level Vaughan, school catchments that split street by street, and a 2000s housing stock now hitting its first big maintenance cycle.
Thornhill Woods
是什么社区?What kind of
community is this?
Thornhill Woods 位于 Vaughan 东南偏中部,是 Vaughan 版 Thornhill 里最受家庭买家欢迎的现代规划社区之一。常见的房地产边界大致是:北至 Rutherford Road / Carrville Road 一带,南至 Highway 7 / Highway 407,东至 Bathurst Street,西至 Dufferin Street。公开社区资料通常把它描述为由 Bathurst、Dufferin、Rutherford 与 Highway 7 围合的成熟 freehold 社区。它的核心标签是:学校驱动、犹太社区氛围明显、家庭自住比例高、靠近 407 / Highway 7 / Bathurst 交通走廊、房价门槛较高。Thornhill Woods sits in Vaughan’s south-central east end and is one of the most family-driven planned communities on the Vaughan side of Thornhill. The working real estate boundary runs roughly from Rutherford Road / Carrville Road in the north to Highway 7 / Highway 407 in the south, Bathurst Street to the east and Dufferin Street to the west. Public community profiles describe it as a mature freehold neighbourhood bounded by Bathurst, Dufferin, Rutherford and Highway 7. The defining traits: school-driven demand, a visible Jewish community presence, a high owner-occupier share, direct access to the 407 / Highway 7 / Bathurst corridors, and a high entry price.
有一点必须在估价前说清楚:部分房源会与 Patterson、Carrville、Beverley Glen、Brownridge 的边界重叠,所以定价和学区都要看具体街道,不能只看社区名称。主力开发集中在 1990 年代末到 2010 年代初——它已经不是新房社区,而是进入成熟维护阶段的家庭社区。房型从公寓、condo townhouse、freehold townhouse、半独立屋到普通独立屋和大地块装修豪宅都有,房型选择比较丰富。One caveat before any valuation: listings here bleed into the Patterson, Carrville, Beverley Glen and Brownridge boundaries, so both pricing and school catchment have to be read at the street level, not off the community name. The main build-out ran from the late 1990s into the early 2010s — this is no longer a new-build neighbourhood but a mature one entering its maintenance phase. Product spans condos and condo townhomes, freehold townhomes, semis, standard detached and renovated homes on larger lots — a fairly broad product mix.
数据来源:Vaughan 全市 2026 年 6 月市场数据、Wahi 2026 年 5 月 Vaughan 数据、YRDSB Find My School 官方工具、Vaughan Public Libraries、York Regional Police 社区安全数据、公开社区人口资料;AZ Real Estate Partners 社区调研 (2026-07)。Sources: Vaughan city-wide market data (June 2026), Wahi Vaughan data (May 2026), YRDSB Find My School official tool, Vaughan Public Libraries, York Regional Police community safety data, public community demographic profiles; AZ Real Estate Partners community research (2026-07).
从四个维度读 Thornhill WoodsFour lenses on Thornhill Woods
房屋结构与房龄Housing Stock & Age
主力开发集中在 1990 年代末至 2010 年代初,是 Vaughan 从传统低密度郊区向规划型家庭社区扩张的重要板块。房屋大致分五类:早期独立屋(1990s 后期–2000s 初)、主流独立屋 / 半独立屋(2000s)、freehold townhouse(2000s–2010s)、condo townhouse 与低层公寓(2010s 以后),以及近年在 Bathurst / Highway 7 周边增加的公寓。实操上这意味着:它已进入成熟维护阶段,看房必查屋顶、窗户、暖炉、空调、车道、地下室防水和外墙状况——2000 年代那批房子正好卡在第一轮大件更换的时间点上。The bulk of construction ran from the late 1990s into the early 2010s, marking Vaughan’s shift from conventional low-density suburb to planned family community. Five broad vintages: early detached (late 1990s–early 2000s), the mainstream detached and semi wave (2000s), freehold townhomes (2000s–2010s), condo townhomes and low-rise condos (2010s onward), plus newer apartment product clustering near Bathurst and Highway 7. Practically: this is a maintenance-stage neighbourhood now. Roof, windows, furnace, A/C, driveway, basement waterproofing and exterior envelope all belong on the inspection list — the 2000s stock is sitting right at its first major replacement cycle.
价格与流动性Pricing & Liquidity
先把口径说清楚:Vaughan 全市 2026 年 6 月数据显示平均房价约 $1.16M–$1.18M,中位上市时间约 26 天;Wahi 2026 年 5 月数据显示 Vaughan 中位成交价约 $1.07M,平均上市约 27 天。这是全市数据,不能直接代表 Thornhill Woods,只能当市场背景读。Thornhill Woods 的实际成交通常高于 Vaughan 入门社区,原因是学校和社区口碑强、靠近 Bathurst / Highway 7 / 407、自住家庭需求稳定、freehold 供应有限,以及与 Patterson、Beverley Glen、Richmond Hill 南部共享买家池。价格层级从公寓 / condo townhouse(入门及投资型)、freehold townhouse(首置家庭主战场)、半独立屋(稀缺、流动性好)、普通独立屋(换房主流)一直到大地块装修豪宅。目前已不是普遍抢 offer 的单边卖方市场:定价过高的房源销售周期会明显拉长,但保养好、装修新、学区清晰、位置安静的 freehold 仍有较强流动性。Set the frame first: Vaughan city-wide data for June 2026 shows an average price of roughly $1.16M–$1.18M with median days on market around 26; Wahi’s May 2026 Vaughan figures show a median sold price near $1.07M and about 27 days on market. Those are city-wide numbers — they are context, not a Thornhill Woods comp. Actual trades here typically clear above entry-level Vaughan, driven by school reputation, the Bathurst / Highway 7 / 407 access, steady owner-occupier demand, limited freehold supply, and a buyer pool shared with Patterson, Beverley Glen and south Richmond Hill. The ladder runs from condos and condo townhomes (entry and investor product), to freehold townhomes (where first-time family buyers compete hardest), semis (scarce and liquid), standard detached (the move-up staple), up to renovated homes on larger lots. This is no longer a blanket multiple-offer seller’s market: overpriced listings sit. Well-maintained, updated freehold on a clear catchment and a quiet street still moves.
学校 · 通勤 · 配套Schools, Commute & Amenities
学校:常见学校包括 Thornhill Woods PS、Bakersfield PS、Anne Frank PS、Stephen Lewis SS、Westmount Collegiate Institute、Nellie McClung PS、Herbert H. Carnegie PS、St. Elizabeth Catholic HS、St. Cecilia Catholic Elementary。必须按具体地址核实 YRDSB / YCDSB——用 YRDSB 官方 Find My School 工具输入门牌号,确认边界、French Immersion、校车资格以及有没有 overflow / holding school 安排。同一个社区名下不同街道对应不同学校是这里的常态,房源文案里的 near top schools 没有任何法律意义。通勤:南接 Highway 7 与 407,东侧 Bathurst 南下 Steeles / North York,西侧 Dufferin 连 Rutherford、Major Mackenzie、407,去 VMC、York University、Richmond Hill、Markham 西部都方便;但高峰期 Bathurst / Rutherford 拥堵、Dufferin / Highway 7 车流大、学校接送时段内街局部堵塞,407 快但通勤成本高。公交上 YRT Route 23 “Thornhill Woods” 是社区代表线路,服务 Bathurst、Thornhill Woods Drive、Pleasant Ridge、Summeridge、Lebovic Campus、Promenade、Finch GO Bus Terminal;YRT Route 3 服务 Thornhill / Highway 7 / Promenade / Pioneer Village / York University 方向。公交通达性优于 Vellore、Sonoma Heights、Elder Mills,但多数家庭仍以自驾为主。配套:North Thornhill Community Centre(300 Pleasant Ridge Avenue,健身、泳池、体育馆、课程)、Pleasant Ridge Library、655 Thomas Cook Avenue 已开放的 Carrville 社区中心 / 图书馆 / 大型公园,公园有 Thornhill Woods Park、Sugarbush Heritage Park、Pleasant Ridge Park、North Thornhill District Park。购物餐饮依托 Bathurst / Rutherford 商业带、Bathurst / Highway 7、Promenade Shopping Centre、Disera Drive / Centre Street、Dufferin / Rutherford,Vaughan Mills 在车程范围内,kosher 餐饮和犹太社区商店密度高。Schools: the names that come up are Thornhill Woods PS, Bakersfield PS, Anne Frank PS, Stephen Lewis SS, Westmount Collegiate Institute, Nellie McClung PS, Herbert H. Carnegie PS, St. Elizabeth Catholic HS and St. Cecilia Catholic Elementary. Verify YRDSB / YCDSB against the specific address — run the exact house number through YRDSB’s official Find My School tool and confirm the boundary, French Immersion eligibility, busing, and whether an overflow or holding school arrangement applies. Different streets under the same community name land in different catchments here; that is normal, and a listing that says near top schools carries no legal weight. Commute: Highway 7 and the 407 sit to the south, Bathurst runs down to Steeles and North York, Dufferin connects west to Rutherford, Major Mackenzie and the 407 — VMC, York University, Richmond Hill and west Markham are all reasonable drives. Peak hour is the catch: Bathurst / Rutherford congestion, heavy Dufferin / Highway 7 volume, school drop-off snarling interior streets, and a 407 that’s fast but expensive. On transit, YRT Route 23 “Thornhill Woods” is the signature line, serving Bathurst, Thornhill Woods Drive, Pleasant Ridge, Summeridge, Lebovic Campus, Promenade and Finch GO Bus Terminal; YRT Route 3 covers Thornhill / Highway 7 / Promenade / Pioneer Village / York University. Transit access beats Vellore, Sonoma Heights and Elder Mills, though most households still drive. Amenities: North Thornhill Community Centre (300 Pleasant Ridge Avenue — gym, pool, courts, programming), Pleasant Ridge Library, and the newer Carrville community centre, library and district park at 655 Thomas Cook Avenue. Green space includes Thornhill Woods Park, Sugarbush Heritage Park, Pleasant Ridge Park and North Thornhill District Park. Retail leans on the Bathurst / Rutherford strip, Bathurst / Highway 7, Promenade Shopping Centre, Disera Drive / Centre Street and Dufferin / Rutherford, with Vaughan Mills a short drive and a dense concentration of kosher dining and Jewish community retail.
主要风险Key Risks
1. 房价门槛高——尤其是 freehold townhouse、半独立屋和独立屋,预算不到位就会被挤到公寓段。2. 高峰期拥堵——Bathurst、Rutherford、Highway 7 和 407 出入口必须自己实测早晚高峰,别信地图估算。3. 学区复杂——不能只凭 Thornhill Woods 这个名字判断学校,必须按具体地址核实 YRDSB / YCDSB。4. 维护周期——2000 年代住宅需重点核查屋顶、窗户、HVAC、防水和车道,这几项的更新记录必须在 offer 前查清楚。5. 密度增加——靠近 Highway 7、Bathurst、Carrville 的地段未来可能更城市化,买之前想清楚你要的是不是低密度。6. 边界模糊——与 Patterson、Carrville、Beverley Glen、Brownridge 重叠,估价必须按街道做,不能按社区名做。1. High price floor — freehold townhomes, semis and detached in particular; a stretched budget gets pushed down into condo product. 2. Peak-hour congestion — drive Bathurst, Rutherford, Highway 7 and the 407 ramps yourself at 8am and 5pm; don’t trust a mapping app’s estimate. 3. Split catchments — the Thornhill Woods name tells you nothing about the school; verify YRDSB / YCDSB against the exact address. 4. Maintenance cycle — 2000s homes need hard scrutiny on roof, windows, HVAC, waterproofing and driveway; pull the update records before you write an offer. 5. Intensification — pockets near Highway 7, Bathurst and Carrville will likely urbanize further; decide upfront whether low density is what you’re buying. 6. Fuzzy boundaries — the community overlaps Patterson, Carrville, Beverley Glen and Brownridge, so comps have to be built street by street, not by neighbourhood label.
三种视角下的 Thornhill WoodsThornhill Woods through three lenses
这个区适合重视学校、社区设施和通勤位置的家庭。按预算带切:预算偏紧的先看 condo townhouse / stacked townhouse / 小型 freehold townhouse——但别只比总价,管理费、停车、储物柜、维修责任和未来转售群体要一起算进去。预算中段是 freehold townhouse 和半独立屋,这是首置家庭竞争最激烈的产品,半独立屋稀缺、流动性好。预算充足直接进 普通独立屋,往上是大地块装修豪宅。看房动作固定六条:用 YRDSB 官方 locator 按门牌查学校、自己实测早晚高峰通勤、查屋顶 / 窗户 / HVAC 更新记录、比较是否靠近主路 / 学校 / 公交站 / 商业区、核查地下室是否合法改造、留意车库和车道停车实用性。安全方面别只信社区口碑——按具体地址看夜间街灯、接送车流、主路噪音、是否靠商业后场、是否正对公园或步道出口,以及 York Regional Police 的社区安全数据。This is a fit for families who genuinely value schools, community infrastructure and commute position. By budget band: tight budgets start at condo townhomes, stacked townhomes or small freehold townhomes — but don’t shop on sticker price alone; maintenance fees, parking, locker, repair liability and the future resale pool all belong in the math. Mid-band means freehold townhomes and semis, the most competitive slice for first-time family buyers; semis are scarce and liquid. A comfortable budget goes straight to standard detached, with renovated homes on larger lots above that. Six non-negotiable viewing steps: run the address through YRDSB’s official locator, drive the commute yourself at both peaks, pull roof / window / HVAC update records, compare proximity to arterials, schools, bus stops and retail, confirm whether any basement conversion is legal, and check garage and driveway parking actually works. On safety, don’t lean on reputation — check the specific address for night lighting, drop-off traffic, arterial noise, backing onto commercial loading, facing a park or trail exit, and York Regional Police community safety data.
卖点应该围绕学校边界、交通连接、社区中心和图书馆、装修与维护记录、步行到公园 / 学校 / 公交的真实便利性,以及与 Patterson / Beverley Glen / Brownridge 竞品的对比。有一件事要提前接受:现在不是普遍抢 offer 的单边卖方市场,定价过高的房源会实打实地拉长销售周期,而且拖久了议价筹码只会更差。反过来说,保养好、装修新、学区清晰、位置安静的 freehold 依然有很强流动性——所以钱花在上市前把维护记录整理清楚、把屋顶 / 窗户 / HVAC 的更新凭证摆出来,比花在虚高定价上有用得多。学校这一条尤其要注意:文案里写 near top schools 没有任何法律意义,如果你的地址确实落在好学区,就直接给出官方 locator 的结果,这比形容词值钱。Lead with the school catchment, the transportation connections, the community centre and library, your renovation and maintenance record, and the real walkability to parks, schools and transit — then position against comparable product in Patterson, Beverley Glen and Brownridge. Accept one thing up front: this is not a blanket multiple-offer market anymore. Overpriced listings sit, and sitting only erodes your negotiating position. The flip side is that well-maintained, updated freehold in a clear catchment on a quiet street still moves — which means money spent assembling the maintenance file and producing the roof / window / HVAC receipts before listing beats money bet on an aspirational price. On schools specifically: near top schools is marketing air with no legal meaning. If your address genuinely lands in a strong catchment, publish the official locator result. That’s worth more than the adjective.
Thornhill Woods 的投资逻辑偏 “稳定租赁 + 长期保值”,不是高现金流——房价门槛高,租金撑不出激进的回报率,想要 cash flow 的别在这里找。适合的标的有四类:靠近 Bathurst / Highway 7 公交节点的公寓(YRT Route 23 和 Route 3 都在这条线上)、可租给家庭的 townhouse、带合法地下室潜力的独立屋(注意是合法,改造合规性要先查清楚),以及靠近学校和社区中心的房源。支撑长期价值的是自住需求本身:学校驱动、家庭比例高、freehold 供应有限、与 Patterson / Beverley Glen / Richmond Hill 南部共享买家池。风险面同样清楚:房子进入维护周期,2000 年代住宅的屋顶 / HVAC / 防水开销会真实吃掉回报;靠近 Highway 7、Bathurst、Carrville 的地段未来密度可能上升——对公寓是利好,对期待低密度溢价的独立屋持有者未必。The investment case here is stable tenancy and long-term value retention, not yield. The price floor is high and rents don’t stretch to cover it — if you’re hunting cash flow, look elsewhere. Four workable profiles: condos near the Bathurst / Highway 7 transit nodes (YRT Routes 23 and 3 both run this spine), townhomes that rent to families, detached with legal basement suite potential — legal being the operative word, so confirm compliance before you underwrite it — and anything walkable to the schools and community centre. What underwrites long-term value is owner-occupier demand itself: school-driven, family-heavy, limited freehold supply, and a buyer pool shared with Patterson, Beverley Glen and south Richmond Hill. The risks are equally plain: the housing stock is in its maintenance cycle, and roof / HVAC / waterproofing on a 2000s home will eat real return; and intensification near Highway 7, Bathurst and Carrville cuts both ways — good for condo holders, less so for anyone banking on a low-density premium in a detached hold.
Thornhill Woods 值得深挖的几件事Topics worth a deeper look
学区按街道核实Verify the Catchment Street by Street
同一社区名下不同街道对应不同学校,必须用 YRDSB 官方 locator 按门牌确认。One community name, multiple catchments — run the exact house number through YRDSB’s official locator.
2000 年代房屋维护周期The 2000s Maintenance Cycle
屋顶、窗户、暖炉、空调、车道、地下室防水——这一批房子正卡在第一轮大件更换。Roof, windows, furnace, A/C, driveway, waterproofing — this vintage is at its first major replacement wave.
边界重叠与估价Overlapping Boundaries & Valuation
与 Patterson、Carrville、Beverley Glen、Brownridge 重叠,comps 要按街道建,不能按社区名。Listings bleed into Patterson, Carrville, Beverley Glen and Brownridge — build comps by street, not by label.
407 / Highway 7 通勤实测Drive the 407 / Highway 7 Commute Yourself
Bathurst、Rutherford 高峰拥堵,407 快但成本高,地图估算不算数。Bathurst and Rutherford clog at peak and the 407 is fast but pricey — a mapping estimate doesn’t count.
Carrville 新设施的外溢The Carrville Amenity Spillover
655 Thomas Cook Avenue 的社区中心、图书馆和大型公园已开放,抬升交界区域配套价值。The community centre, library and district park at 655 Thomas Cook Avenue are open, lifting the border pocket.
freehold 供应有限Limited Freehold Supply
半独立屋稀缺、流动性好,freehold townhouse 是首置家庭竞争最激烈的产品。Semis are scarce and liquid; freehold townhomes are where first-time family buyers compete hardest.
如果 Thornhill Woods 不完全合适If Thornhill Woods isn’t quite the fit
Patterson
紧邻北侧,房源边界与买家池直接重叠,比价时必须一起看。Directly north, with overlapping boundaries and a shared buyer pool — always comp the two together.
Beverley Glen
边界重叠的竞品社区,卖家定位时最常被拿来对比的对象之一。An overlapping competitor community and one of the most common comparisons in a seller’s positioning.
Thornhill
共享 Bathurst / Highway 7 走廊与 Thornhill 名号,但房龄更老、格局不同。Shares the Bathurst / Highway 7 corridor and the Thornhill name, but with older stock and a different grain.
关于 Thornhill Woods 的常见问题Common questions about Thornhill Woods
Thornhill Woods 的房价大概在什么水平?What do homes in Thornhill Woods actually cost? ▾
先说口径:Vaughan 全市 2026 年 6 月平均房价约 $1.16M–$1.18M,中位上市约 26 天;Wahi 2026 年 5 月显示 Vaughan 中位成交价约 $1.07M、平均上市约 27 天。这是全市数据,不等于 Thornhill Woods。这里的实际成交通常高于 Vaughan 入门社区,因为学校口碑强、靠近 Bathurst / Highway 7 / 407、自住需求稳定、freehold 供应有限。要具体数字,只能按你的目标街道和房型拉近期 comps——社区均价在这种边界重叠的区里没有决策价值。Set the frame first: Vaughan city-wide averaged roughly $1.16M–$1.18M in June 2026 with median days on market around 26; Wahi’s May 2026 data shows a Vaughan median sold price near $1.07M and about 27 days on market. Those are city numbers, not Thornhill Woods numbers. Trades here typically clear above entry-level Vaughan on the strength of school reputation, Bathurst / Highway 7 / 407 access, steady owner-occupier demand and limited freehold supply. For a real figure you need recent comps pulled on your target street and product type — in a neighbourhood with boundaries this fuzzy, a community average won’t support a decision.
买房前学校怎么查才算查清楚?How do I properly confirm the school for an address? ▾
必须按具体地址核实 YRDSB / YCDSB,用 YRDSB 官方 Find My School 工具输入门牌号,确认四件事:学校边界、French Immersion 资格、校车资格,以及有没有 overflow / holding school 安排。这里的常态是同一个社区名下不同街道对应不同学校——常见学校包括 Thornhill Woods PS、Bakersfield PS、Anne Frank PS、Stephen Lewis SS、Westmount CI、Nellie McClung PS、Herbert H. Carnegie PS、St. Elizabeth Catholic HS、St. Cecilia Catholic Elementary,但哪一所归你,只有官方 locator 说了算。房源文案里的 near top schools 没有法律意义。Verify YRDSB / YCDSB against the specific address — put the exact house number into YRDSB’s official Find My School tool and confirm four things: the catchment boundary, French Immersion eligibility, busing eligibility, and whether any overflow or holding school arrangement applies. Different streets under one community name landing in different catchments is the norm here. The recurring names are Thornhill Woods PS, Bakersfield PS, Anne Frank PS, Stephen Lewis SS, Westmount CI, Nellie McClung PS, Herbert H. Carnegie PS, St. Elizabeth Catholic HS and St. Cecilia Catholic Elementary — but only the official locator decides which one is yours. Near top schools in a listing carries no legal weight.
Thornhill Woods 和 VMC、Islington Woods 有什么区别?How does Thornhill Woods differ from VMC or Islington Woods? ▾
定位完全不同。VMC 偏投资和高密度;Islington Woods 以豪宅和大地块为主;Thornhill Woods 是典型的中高端家庭自住社区——学校资源、成熟社区设施、较好的公交连接、便利商业加上强自住需求。它最适合重视学校、社区氛围、交通便利和长期保值的家庭买家。取舍也很清楚:房价门槛高、学区复杂、高峰期拥堵、部分房屋进入维护周期。想要现金流或者大地块的,方向都不在这里。They’re built for different buyers. VMC skews investor and high-density; Islington Woods is estate lots and large custom homes; Thornhill Woods is a textbook upper-middle family owner-occupier community — school access, mature amenities, decent transit, convenient retail and durable end-user demand. It suits families who actually care about schools, neighbourhood feel, commute position and long-term value retention. The trade-offs are equally clear: high price floor, split catchments, peak-hour congestion, and housing stock entering its maintenance cycle. If you want cash flow or acreage, you’re in the wrong neighbourhood.
这里的公交够用吗,还是必须买车?Is the transit workable, or do I need a car? ▾
公交比 Vellore、Sonoma Heights、Elder Mills 这些西 Vaughan 社区好得多。YRT Route 23 “Thornhill Woods” 是社区代表线路,服务 Bathurst、Thornhill Woods Drive、Pleasant Ridge、Summeridge、Lebovic Campus、Promenade 和 Finch GO Bus Terminal,能接上地铁和区域公交;YRT Route 3 走 Thornhill / Highway 7 / Promenade / Pioneer Village / York University 方向。但实话说,多数家庭仍以自驾为主。真要靠公交通勤,就在你打算出门的时间点自己坐一遍全程,别看时刻表推算。Transit here is meaningfully better than west Vaughan communities like Vellore, Sonoma Heights or Elder Mills. YRT Route 23 “Thornhill Woods” is the signature line, serving Bathurst, Thornhill Woods Drive, Pleasant Ridge, Summeridge, Lebovic Campus, Promenade and Finch GO Bus Terminal, with connections to the subway and regional service; YRT Route 3 runs the Thornhill / Highway 7 / Promenade / Pioneer Village / York University direction. That said, most households here still drive. If you genuinely intend to commute by transit, ride the full trip at the hour you’d actually leave — don’t extrapolate from a schedule.